Wednesday, November 9, 2016
On behalf of my country I want to apologize to the rest of the world for what we have done...and for all the insanity that will occur during the next four years. If it's any consolation, the majority of American voters did not vote for the man who will become the President. How strange that our Electoral College, designed to prevent the election of demagogues, has twice done the opposite!
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What happened in the US is nothing less than disturbing, even shocking. I wonder if the same will happen in Germany in 2017 when we elect a new government. Populist and inhuman fanatics are on the rise here, too. 😒
It is what it is, not happy about things. But, isn't this site for male tf media? When did this become political. Removing this from my bookmarks.....
blckspdr: I hope Germany will be spared, especially since Merkel has been a good person and an effective leader. Populists have genuine economic grievances, but they will not be addressed by people like Trump or the extreme right wing.
Unknown: This is indeed a site for TF media, and I have hundred of posts to prove it. Since when does a single political post say otherwise?
Focus on improving things in your own community and for those around you; that's all you or any of us can do now. I just pray we'll SURVIVE the next four years.... I'm half-expecting to get shot or killed... :,( Or lose a ton of money... I want a future to look forward to, not to dread...
I've always been ashamed to be American, now even moreso. I just hope others will look at us as individuals with unique personalities and not associate us with our countries or leaders. *hugs tight* I promise to do the same for others.
Same in Spain. My country, Catalonia, is desperate trying to become independent of Spain because of their politicians. Is a little hell here too.
Apuleius, you don't have to apologize if you voted for democrats.
well to be honest there wasn't much choice, the democrats ruled out Bernie (Clinton probably had a hand on this) even if he was the major candidate to the main vote(and i think the right one), so americans have been left with a choice between a bad candidate and a worse one. Now i trust the fact that Trump said all the things that he said to attract voters, pushing on the great patriotism that is present in the usa as of now. So, if he doesn't want to start a war, he can't do the majority of the things he said. This is painfully clear in the after election speech, where he claims that he's a "president of everyone". So i don't really know who is better between Clinton and Trump, i hope he proves me wrong.
On a positive note though, we won't be the only country mocked for having a ridicoulous president (Italian, Berlusconi and shit btw)
As a majority of voters decided, the obvious choice was for the lesser evil. Unfortunately the Electoral College favored the greater one. In reality, Presidents have often tried to fulfill their election promises, and Trump's speech is belied by his recent hirings, transition team, and post-election interview. Together they dispel the idea that his atrocious campaign rhetoric was all hot air.
Yeah.... I hear ya
The rest of the world is enforcing their immigration laws. Enforcing them is not bigotry nor hatred, but an essential part of national sovereignity. If we should complain about the US for wanting to protect its borders from a phenomenon that widens our economic disparity by making the middle class subsidize unsustainably low wages offered by employers to illegals through welfare, we should probably demand an apology also on behalf of the UK, Australia, and others who actually do enforce their policies. And we are much more densely populated, making the consequences of illegal immigration more serious. The same phenomenon of unlimited immigration probably explains Brexit, and Scotland's resistance to it, also alluding to the "economic grievances" that more of the world is pushing back against through such acts. This is a worldwide phenomenon.
Regardless of how much we try to redistribute income as liberals desire, our trade deficits drain our economy at the benefit of the rich few, and gradually reduce the value of our currency. This is one issue that Trump and Carson have addressed, and it is important because it is not only economic, but critical for national security. We need a diverse economy to narrow the economic dispairity.
College is not important enough to warrant tax-payer supported tuition on the basis that not all universities, colleges, or their degrees, are created equal. In the US, college cost has risen as a result of government guarenteed loans. Most jobs students can get when graduating, even in their field, pay much less in an entire year than the sum of their student loan debt, and in many cases the students cannot find relevant work at all, turning the value of education into a growing bubble. I would strongly caution anyone wanting to use tax money to pay tuition to consider the individual risk and responsibility carried by many unsuccessful graduates, and that this can be a symptom of a broken higher education system. Maybe it is not even broken; maybe our coveted US higher education system enjoys the successes it has because it enjoys a figuritive tenure supported by individual choice rather than supported by tax money that would no doubt have to be provided under more conservative stipulations.
These are some of the issues that tipped a vote for Trump in my favor. Of course I would have preferred a choice between Bernie and Carson, but those hopes were lost obviously long ago.
-nbrogm
America enforces its immigration laws too--no developed country has open borders. Illegal immigrants tend to take low-skill, undesirable jobs, and as long as their labor remains profitable for employers (and big business) the problem won't go away. I do not find Trump's proposed wall to be a serious (or feasible) solution. The middle and working classes have been hurt far more by the disappearance of manufacturing jobs, which has been caused by automation and outsourcing. Neither can be put back in the bottle without harming the rest of the economy.
While I don't think college should be free for everyone (unlike Sanders), it is increasingly important in an information economy with fewer low-skill jobs, and tax-payer supported tuition has worked for decades in Northern Europe (and isn't going away anytime soon). I am sorry that you voted in favor of Trump, because I think he will let his supporters down very badly.
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